Tubbys SW
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Tubbys SW
Got my gen2 SW20 turbo 2 years. It lasted a year and a half before the headgasket gave up. Last 6 months I've been rebuilding the engine and tidying the engine bay up, it's now wire tucked and much tidier than before. Outside paintwork not the best, but that's next on the list.
Mod list
Engine
JE forged pistons and rings 1mm oversize 87mm bore
JE proseal rings
ACL race bearings
ATS Racing High Volume oil pump
ARP rod bolts
ARP Head studs
Valves recut and reshimmed
ST205 MLS head gasket
BKR7E spark plugs
CT26 hybrid with TO4E 46trim inducer
GFB atomic MBC
Wastegate helper spring mod
100mm aftermarket intercooler
9" puller fan
3" Downpipe into 2.5" twin tip 5zigen Exhaust
6degree retard on exhaust cam
Autoclutch Custom carbon kevlar HD clutch 2800lbs clamp
Simota pod filter
Redline water wetter
ATS racing 170degree thermostat
Throttle Body coolant bypass
Ball Bearing shifter bushings
Gearbox
Clutch type LSD
TRD GL-3 FWD LSD Gearbox oil
Suspension/Wheels/Tyres
17" Diezel D1r rims staggered 7"/8" fitment
Toyo T1R tyres 215/40/17 front
Goodyear Eagle f1's 245/40/17 rear
KYB GR2 struts
Tein springs
TGP camber bolts up front for 2degree's negative
Reversed strut top mounts for increased caster
Brakes
Stock gen2 calipers/rotors
Removed front dust shields for cooling
Porterfield R4-S Pads
Motul RBF600
Interior
MOMO steering wheel
Mechanical boost gauge
Oil Pressure gauge
30psi oil pressure warning light/buzzer
Car
Engine Before
Rebuild
Rebuilding still
Engine After
Engine Bay after painting (Porsche Guards Red)
Engine in car
Engine still in car
Dyno
Mod list
Engine
JE forged pistons and rings 1mm oversize 87mm bore
JE proseal rings
ACL race bearings
ATS Racing High Volume oil pump
ARP rod bolts
ARP Head studs
Valves recut and reshimmed
ST205 MLS head gasket
BKR7E spark plugs
CT26 hybrid with TO4E 46trim inducer
GFB atomic MBC
Wastegate helper spring mod
100mm aftermarket intercooler
9" puller fan
3" Downpipe into 2.5" twin tip 5zigen Exhaust
6degree retard on exhaust cam
Autoclutch Custom carbon kevlar HD clutch 2800lbs clamp
Simota pod filter
Redline water wetter
ATS racing 170degree thermostat
Throttle Body coolant bypass
Ball Bearing shifter bushings
Gearbox
Clutch type LSD
TRD GL-3 FWD LSD Gearbox oil
Suspension/Wheels/Tyres
17" Diezel D1r rims staggered 7"/8" fitment
Toyo T1R tyres 215/40/17 front
Goodyear Eagle f1's 245/40/17 rear
KYB GR2 struts
Tein springs
TGP camber bolts up front for 2degree's negative
Reversed strut top mounts for increased caster
Brakes
Stock gen2 calipers/rotors
Removed front dust shields for cooling
Porterfield R4-S Pads
Motul RBF600
Interior
MOMO steering wheel
Mechanical boost gauge
Oil Pressure gauge
30psi oil pressure warning light/buzzer
Car
Engine Before
Rebuild
Rebuilding still
Engine After
Engine Bay after painting (Porsche Guards Red)
Engine in car
Engine still in car
Dyno
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Re: Tubbys SW
That's one clean engine bay you have there
looks great with the wire tuck.
looks great with the wire tuck.
Boosted cars are like hot women.
A little edgy, every guy wants one,
some guys can't handle them,
and if you throw a little alcohol in them they'll rock your world.
A little edgy, every guy wants one,
some guys can't handle them,
and if you throw a little alcohol in them they'll rock your world.
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Re: Tubbys SW
Its not often i see a 3SGTE engine bay i like the look of, but damn that thing looks mint.
Should go nicely, just needs a bigger turbo
Should go nicely, just needs a bigger turbo
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Re: Tubbys SW
I agree, the rebuilds bled me dry tho and the next power upgrades a big expensive slap in the face . Main goals a good responsive powerband with little lag thats good for track racing. Im pretty happyBoosted wrote:Should go nicely, just needs a bigger turbo
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Re: Tubbys SW
You will find the CT26 should get you to 200Kw if it's done right along with the rest of the build. I still like the way it spools with no lag and the power is delivery is extreemly smooth and predictable on the track.
Carl
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1990 Gen II GT Ceramic CT26 Hybrid @ 15psi
170.5 kW @ 6429 RPM 288.7 Nm @ 5430RPM
Gary Capper Performance - "Dynamic Test Systems" Precision Dynamometer
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1990 Gen II GT Ceramic CT26 Hybrid @ 15psi
170.5 kW @ 6429 RPM 288.7 Nm @ 5430RPM
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Re: Tubbys SW
very clean. i remember when mine looked clean too. I wish theyd stay that way. I spose it would if i didnt take it out of the garage.
Lots of work done internally which is good. that should last you a good while, that engine.
Lots of work done internally which is good. that should last you a good while, that engine.
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Re: Tubbys SW
Very clean. Still running stock ECU?
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Re: Tubbys SW
For now, upgraded ecu comes into the big expensive slap in the face category
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Re: Tubbys SW
You won't need it for 190-200Kw, just up your base fuel pressure a few psi and put the rest of the money into doing a first class job on the rebuild and run 18psi on the CT26.mr2 Tubby wrote:For now, upgraded ecu comes into the big expensive slap in the face category
Keen to know what you finally get out of it after the short run in period and then the Dyno.
Carl
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1990 Gen II GT Ceramic CT26 Hybrid @ 15psi
170.5 kW @ 6429 RPM 288.7 Nm @ 5430RPM
Gary Capper Performance - "Dynamic Test Systems" Precision Dynamometer
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Re: Tubbys SW
are you trying to blow up his carTronic wrote:You won't need it for 190-200Kw, just up your base fuel pressure a few psi and put the rest of the money into doing a first class job on the rebuild and run 18psi on the CT26.mr2 Tubby wrote:For now, upgraded ecu comes into the big expensive slap in the face category
Keen to know what you finally get out of it after the short run in period and then the Dyno.
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Re: Tubbys SW
there has never been a ct26 even modified that can get to 200kw on stock fueling .. please stop posting missinformationTronic wrote:You will find the CT26 should get you to 200Kw if it's done right along with the rest of the build. I still like the way it spools with no lag and the power is delivery is extreemly smooth and predictable on the track.
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Re: Tubbys SW
Correct me if im wrong but weren't you using 96 octane?heylin wrote:I think even CT27s from ATS which is a fully worked CT26 still struggles to break the 190 rwkw mark.
My Ct20b managed 190 rwkw at 18psi on stock ECU, there was nothing else left in it without going to aftermarket ECU and even then with perfect AFR tuning 200-210rwkw would have been the maximum on 540cc injectors and 20 psi of boost.
There are plenty of ct26 upgrades in the states running 193kW at the wheels, thats without cam timing or a fresh engine. Retarding the exhaust cam has showed quite often gains of up to 15hp (11kW).
CT27's have been pushed to 220kW in some cases and 240kW on race gas. Alot of psi but it's been done
The limits of the factory injectors is about 205kW. Im guessing you mean 440cc injectors cause 540cc would max out well over 300hp.
Im just hoping to hit 200 or as close to it as possible. Above 190 is good.
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Re: Tubbys SW
well i could well be wrong .. i just remeber a fellow many moons ago that got a steve merch ct26 .... and was highly dissapointed when speedtech couldnt get it over 180kw with a v5 link
with stock management .. i prolly wouldnt run 19 psi without race gas ... it runs quite advanced on the stock ecu .. about 19-20 degress of advance if memory serves me correctly at anything over 14 psi .. ...... you could just back off your base timming to compensate ?
with stock management .. i prolly wouldnt run 19 psi without race gas ... it runs quite advanced on the stock ecu .. about 19-20 degress of advance if memory serves me correctly at anything over 14 psi .. ...... you could just back off your base timming to compensate ?
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Re: Tubbys SW
It's worth a try, to many people chuck the CT26 in the bin before they even start to get the rest of the set-up right, it's not the weakest link in getting close to 200Kw if you modify it right and are staying with the stock ECU anyway. I have got to 170Kw without even trying, unopened engine at 210,000Km, stock intake, stock IC, stock exhaust, stock ECU and 15psi but I only run 98 fuel.mr2 Tubby wrote:Correct me if im wrong but weren't you using 96 octane?heylin wrote:I think even CT27s from ATS which is a fully worked CT26 still struggles to break the 190 rwkw mark.
My Ct20b managed 190 rwkw at 18psi on stock ECU, there was nothing else left in it without going to aftermarket ECU and even then with perfect AFR tuning 200-210rwkw would have been the maximum on 540cc injectors and 20 psi of boost.
There are plenty of ct26 upgrades in the states running 193kW at the wheels, thats without cam timing or a fresh engine. Retarding the exhaust cam has showed quite often gains of up to 15hp (11kW).
CT27's have been pushed to 220kW in some cases and 240kW on race gas. Alot of psi but it's been done
The limits of the factory injectors is about 205kW. Im guessing you mean 440cc injectors cause 540cc would max out well over 300hp.
Im just hoping to hit 200 or as close to it as possible. Above 190 is good.
Carl
Electronics Technician.
1990 Gen II GT Ceramic CT26 Hybrid @ 15psi
170.5 kW @ 6429 RPM 288.7 Nm @ 5430RPM
Gary Capper Performance - "Dynamic Test Systems" Precision Dynamometer
Electronics Technician.
1990 Gen II GT Ceramic CT26 Hybrid @ 15psi
170.5 kW @ 6429 RPM 288.7 Nm @ 5430RPM
Gary Capper Performance - "Dynamic Test Systems" Precision Dynamometer
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Re: Tubbys SW
if i remeber rightly your kw rating is calculated to the flywheel isnt it carl
i do remeber you saying you saying something about using the dyno to measure the gearbox loss
i do remeber you saying you saying something about using the dyno to measure the gearbox loss
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