drive shafts differences?

[blown]

just wondering if anyone knows if the supercharged automatic and manual drive shafts are the same?
converting my auto to manual in a few weeks, got a manual s/c gearbox but no drive shafts or will n/a drive shafts work?

thanks

[Sinturion]

Pretty sure you will need the axles from a manual supercharger (hard to find). Naturally aspirated ones definitely won't work.

[mickeyduck]

Depends if your gearbox is an E51 (Supercharger box) or the lighter C52 (na box).

The E51 uses the kind of axles with the allen keys attaching them whereas the C52 uses the stud and nut attachments.

I'm fairly sure the auto Supercharger box uses the allen keys same as the E51 manual. Just going by memory mind you so without crawling around under my cars I might be wrong...

As for converting an auto SC to a manual... if your driving is mostly open road, sure. But around a city nothing touches an auto SC for standing starts or cruising in traffic. I guess over your neck of the woods that's not much of a worry. I have one of each breed and I love the both of 'em.

[blown]

doesn't sound to good at this stage but when I look at the e51 and the auto in my car they almost look like it will be a straight swap been told Toyotas are generally pretty good but here's a pic of the auto and the manual **apologies for the huge size**

auto (A241E? I believe)

manual (E51)
more of a worry might be that the drive shafts are the same but the flange? or hub part that sits in the gearbox before the shafts is different as my e51 doesn't have those and if finding S/C drive shafts are really rare/hard to find then the hub/flange parts would be almost impossible to get

[mickeyduck]

Dunno mate, my gearbox came with them in. Hopefully the ones from your auto box drop straight in there...?

[blown]

After a few hours of head banging while searching turns out the auto axles are to long and wont dtop in anyway but turbo sw20 shafts may be the same length. Might just be putting a c56 gearbox at this stage

[Sinturion]

Turbo axles have an intermediate shaft on the drivers side. If they are the right length, i'd imagine you'd still need to create some kind of bracket for the intermediate shaft axle bearing.

[blown]

Hmm even then if the lengths are the same making a bracket shouldnt be to difficult. May even be something close around the mounting area. May have to do a build log as I've found some sw20 shafts. Might aswell try it and find out

[JasonFriday13]

Are you sure SW20 NA shafts won't work? They don't have a carrier bearing. I have a spare set of NA shafts I can sell if they fit.

[Malcolm]

The sw20 shaft combo is the same length as aw11 sc, however you need to change the outer cv joints to aw11 sc ones.

The sw20 na shafts don't have the right inboard spline for the sc gearbox so won't work.

[Sinturion]

however you need to change the outer cv joints to aw11 sc ones.

Or ST185 celica CV joints.

[blown]

Yeah I've heard v6 88-91 camry outer cvs will work but ill try the auto outer cvs as they may work aswell. Will be an experience Nyway

[mickeyduck]

The sw20 shaft combo is the same length as aw11 sc, however you need to change the outer cv joints to aw11 sc ones.

The sw20 na shafts don't have the right inboard spline for the sc gearbox so won't work.

Now there's a man who knows his stuff.

[blown]

yeah thanks for all the help guys, can't wait to tackle this challenge, will have to do a build log. thankfully my dad knows his stuff haha man clutch lines will be a challenge and a half

[mickeyduck]

Start a thread in the Rides section if you haven't already.

And flick me a PM if you're going to ditch that auto box. If the price is right I might buy it off you. Cheers.