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runing rich aw11 s/c

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hay guys my 86 s/c is running very rich and bogs down in power or will even stall at low rpm if given too much throtle. it dose have an external fuel pump which was put in there by previous owner for when it was twin charged. i was wondering if the fuel pump was flowing too much fuel would this be my problem. have tryed replaceing afm. didnt make much difrence.
edit. the fuel pump is a bosh 044
I have dyslexia so please excuse spelling.
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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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Well the 044 is certainly gruntier than the standard job. Is the fuel pressure regulator poked? Or just unable to deal with the pressure of the 044? Gotta wonder...
Or maybe the vacuum hose on the FPR is naffed?
See BGB for FPR test... P.265 (tech thread, Members' section download)

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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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Yeah, the 044 is a bit overkill for a stock engine. Is it just the 044 running it, or is the factory pump still in the tank? If the stock pump is still in the tank, I would say just remove the 044. Otherwise a bigger fuel pressure regulator will help with flowing all that fuel out at idle.
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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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i dont know if the stock pump is still in or not. i do know that there is no power running to it. yea was ither going to look at adjustable fuel presure regulator or another fuel pump. trying to get car running so i can sell it as a good running car. will put my spair fuel regulator in and the other vacume lines in and try it.
I have dyslexia so please excuse spelling.
1991 sw20 mr2 non turbo new engine in with street cams also have done body work to it. sold
1990 sw20 mr2 na, street cams, link ecu
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1986 nissan patrol (set up on some 35/10.5 tyires plus bull bars and other stuff for 4wding)

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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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is the vacume hose from intake to fuel regulator meant to be teed off to some thought of valve? (round thing in photo)
I have dyslexia so please excuse spelling.
1991 sw20 mr2 non turbo new engine in with street cams also have done body work to it. sold
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1986 aw11 mr2 blacktop 20v.
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1986 nissan patrol (set up on some 35/10.5 tyires plus bull bars and other stuff for 4wding)

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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

Post by GDII »

I'm sure the AW gurus will be more help but this diagram says it should be. Image 2.

http://jp-carparts.com/toyota/partlist. ... 9&fig=1708
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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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Stock regulator would surely have trouble dumping all that excess fuel?

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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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if so what would be a good external fuel pump to go to. would go back to stock. but iv been told pump is no longer in there and dont want to go to all the trouble of dropping the tank. then re wireing the stock pump. wiring has been riped out to wire up the external.
I have dyslexia so please excuse spelling.
1991 sw20 mr2 non turbo new engine in with street cams also have done body work to it. sold
1990 sw20 mr2 na, street cams, link ecu
1986 aw11 mr2 blacktop 20v.
1986 s/c aw11 mr2
1986 nissan patrol (set up on some 35/10.5 tyires plus bull bars and other stuff for 4wding)

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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

Post by GDII »

The 070 pump might be one to go with. It's not as big and powerful as the 044. My brother runs one on his SR20DE swapped KP61 Starlet. It's the main pump from the surge tank system. It runs about 147whp.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 853957.htm

Like the ad says, 300hp boosted or 400hp NA. There will be other pumps out there that do a similar job but you would want one that flows less if the 044 is putting out too much fuel for the stock regulator.
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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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In the first pic, why is there what looks like a vacuum line T with one end open? At least that's what it looks like...
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Re: runing rich aw11 s/c

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that was stuff i striped out. it was a boost gauge teed off the fuel presure regulator.
I have dyslexia so please excuse spelling.
1991 sw20 mr2 non turbo new engine in with street cams also have done body work to it. sold
1990 sw20 mr2 na, street cams, link ecu
1986 aw11 mr2 blacktop 20v.
1986 s/c aw11 mr2
1986 nissan patrol (set up on some 35/10.5 tyires plus bull bars and other stuff for 4wding)

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