That's awesome. Yes, these cars are sensitive to the wheel alignment. Do you have a copy of the alignment specs before and after?JKH wrote:So turns out it was indeed the latter - bad wheel alignment. The mechanic said it was shocking how bad it was. Can confirm I took it for a drive once they’d finished with it and it feels like a whole new car. Now onto saving for the rest of the things it needs less urgently thanks guys!
Advice re. wet weather
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Was that from the same place? Those numbers on the last sheet were not good. I am guessing they were a bit embarrassed.
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I took it to a different place - didn't much trust the other place I went. I have no clue what on earth they did to it for an hour to make it so messed up.
I'll try put the pic of the new sheet below, hopefully it's readable. The guy talked me through it a little, I was slightly horrified.
I'll try put the pic of the new sheet below, hopefully it's readable. The guy talked me through it a little, I was slightly horrified.
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Looks much better! You obviously have a car that caster can be adjusted (not all came with an adjustable setup). I bet you have much more confidence driving it now.
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I can't even convey how much better it feels. I had no idea a messed up alignment could make such a difference. I'm excited to drive it now!
I didn't know that about adjustable caster, interesting.
I didn't know that about adjustable caster, interesting.
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A bad alignment can make a car very scary. When we first bought the girlfriends' Carina (FWD 4 door slow Celica) it felt like it wanted to kick out sideways when going around slight turns at 80-100kmh. Had some decent toe in at the back
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Wheel alignment can can make all the difference. Most places that do alignments have a sophisticated machine but use some pimply face kid operating. You really need a Technician who understands what they are doing to give the patient the best cure.
Anytime I’ve had an alignment I bring my own auto-cross specs into the shop to discuss with the Technician. It becomes very apparent after a brief talk on if they understand and will check & adjust as per your figures. Most shops say they will follow factory settings as per machine output. I then finish thier free coffee and find another shop.
Anytime I’ve had an alignment I bring my own auto-cross specs into the shop to discuss with the Technician. It becomes very apparent after a brief talk on if they understand and will check & adjust as per your figures. Most shops say they will follow factory settings as per machine output. I then finish thier free coffee and find another shop.
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12mm toe on one side would make your car drive bad alright.
Cant believe the first place didn't sort it.
Its up there to do a name and shame.
Anyway good that its sorted, if you need any help let me know. Think I'm near your area, just did read this post till too late.
Cant believe the first place didn't sort it.
Its up there to do a name and shame.
Anyway good that its sorted, if you need any help let me know. Think I'm near your area, just did read this post till too late.
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Thanks! I shall definitely be out and about on weekends now. Hopefully everything will be good from here on out, it just needs some cosmetic work and little things here and there. So if you see a slightly scruffy red one with white wheels it’s me
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Free coffee from an alignment shop... Where can I find that sort of customer service?!
I agree with Al though, those tyres aren't good -
But will be an improvement over old hard cracked tyres. OP should be safe with new tyres and all the suspension work he's done and when he can afford to upgrade to 17s and Potenzas he can use old set of 14s for burnouts etc.
Just treat it with respect, an MR2 will make you feel like a million bucks but do stupid stuff and you will end up in trouble.
I agree with Al though, those tyres aren't good -
But will be an improvement over old hard cracked tyres. OP should be safe with new tyres and all the suspension work he's done and when he can afford to upgrade to 17s and Potenzas he can use old set of 14s for burnouts etc.
Just treat it with respect, an MR2 will make you feel like a million bucks but do stupid stuff and you will end up in trouble.
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Never fear - I'm a thirty year old female in an auto MR2, not a seventeen year old boy racer with something to prove I'm a fairly cautious driver, and I researched pretty carefully about how they handle (compared to what I'm used to) before I bought one. I will be upgrading the tyres in the near future, but for my purposes right now it's fine.
I've had it out a lot the last couple of weekends and am having a blast it feels so good now.
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where's that like button when you need itAlsw20 wrote:Goodride and Triangles.
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That rear toe in! That first outfit was "toe n go" all the way! good on you for taking it for another somewhere better. I can testify to how key alignments are to MR2's, you can tailor the whole car to your driving style just in the alignment, throw in tyres and you can make it amazing! or terrible. listen to the cool headed regulars on here and you'll be ok. Also become a paid up member and take advantage of the discounts and deals section, it'll easily pay for membership in the end!JKH wrote:I took it to a different place - didn't much trust the other place I went. I have no clue what on earth they did to it for an hour to make it so messed up.
I'll try put the pic of the new sheet below, hopefully it's readable. The guy talked me through it a little, I was slightly horrified.
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Dude if I had a dollar for every time someone has told me how bad the tyres are I could afford a whole new set already. I'm working on it guys! It's just currently one thing on a long list. I did have it out the other day in the rain and the cheap tyres seem fine for my particular driving style (AKA grandma). Gotta silicone that roof though
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tYrEsJKH wrote:Dude if I had a dollar for every time someone has told me how bad the tyres are I could afford a whole new set already. I'm working on it guys! It's just currently one thing on a long list. I did have it out the other day in the rain and the cheap tyres seem fine for my particular driving style (AKA grandma). Gotta silicone that roof though
They are important. What is more important is being aware of the limits of the tyres you have installed and not driving past their limit. People are good at driving the MR2 to the limit without giving their tyres consideration, so as a default, good tyres are good to prevent an accident. If you are on worn, old or cheap rubber, then adjust driving to suit, simple! Continue as you are - just be aware you're not getting all the MR2 you paid for without it
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