Are 3sge and 3sgte lifters (buckets) the same?

[tw2]

I am cross checking all the part numbers for the gen 2 3sge and 3sgte valve train. I am doing this as some parts are cheaper from american (3sgte only sources) or OEM/aftermarket upgrade parts are listed for the 3sgte and don't mention the 3sge (titanium retainers, 1zz bucket upgrades etc). I have confirmed everything from valve stem seals, springs, spring seats, retainers, keepers and shims.

The only part which has different part numbers is the buckets but I find that hard to believe? Can anyone confirm?

[GDII]

Don't you just need the shims?

[tw2]

After a valve job yes. But I am tossing up the idea of going with 1zz shimless buckets which we know works fine with the 2nd gen 3sgte. I had presumed like the rest of it, that it would be identical to the 3sge but part numbers are different.