Blacktop 3sge SW20
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This section of the forum is a great resource if you're looking for ideas, and it's a cool way of obtaining technical information that may otherwise not have been posted. (Members can use the Search functionality at top right of the forum to speed up finding things) Please respect others' contributions and don't diss anyone - keep comments helpful, factual, positive and polite. One thread per vehicle or owner please - don't start lots of threads about just one car. And if you need assistance with your car and want to host a spanner day, please use the appropriate section of the forum: viewforum.php?f=35 Thank you.
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Reubenh
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
No comment
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GDII
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
It sure does bolt up as expected. And has the normal lean. That manifold does poke out a long way so you'll need to use the GEN4 one.
Are there any issues with the front engine mount? As the transverse engines only technically have one engine mount and 3 gearbox mounts. The timing belt and tensioner appears to get in the way of the OEM SW20 mount. Keen to see more on the front of the engine and that mount.
Seems the additional tensioner mounts to 2 of the engine mount bolts.
GEN2/SW20
GEN5
Are there any issues with the front engine mount? As the transverse engines only technically have one engine mount and 3 gearbox mounts. The timing belt and tensioner appears to get in the way of the OEM SW20 mount. Keen to see more on the front of the engine and that mount.
Seems the additional tensioner mounts to 2 of the engine mount bolts.
GEN2/SW20
- GEN2 3SGE engine mount.PNG (1.75 MiB) Viewed 598 times
GEN5
- GEN5 3SGE engine mount.PNG (1.77 MiB) Viewed 598 times
1996 AE101 Corolla Sprint NZ New Daily
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
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Reubenh
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Yes all of those things are issues. I will need an intake manifold and the front engine mount won't bolt up. You don't have a picture of the "front" engine mount on a gen4 by chance? I can't find much at all about them.
Cheers
Cheers
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GDII
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
GEN4 is the same as GEN2-3
- GEN4 3SGE engine mount.PNG (1.48 MiB) Viewed 594 times
1996 AE101 Corolla Sprint NZ New Daily
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
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GDII
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Thinking of the fuel system. You would need to make some mods to run the Blacktop fuel rail.
https://www.sq-engineering.com/tech-art ... ion-guide/
Similar to what Mrman did with his 3VZ swap.
Run a fuel feed from the pump to an aftermarket FPR, run a return back to the OEM return hose and then a single feed to the Blacktop rail. Just need to set the pressure.
https://www.sq-engineering.com/tech-art ... ion-guide/
Similar to what Mrman did with his 3VZ swap.
Run a fuel feed from the pump to an aftermarket FPR, run a return back to the OEM return hose and then a single feed to the Blacktop rail. Just need to set the pressure.
1996 AE101 Corolla Sprint NZ New Daily
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
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Reubenh
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- First name: REUBEN
Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Just sticking the oe en2 fpr on the fuel rail should work fine. I'll try to fire it up this weekend and see.
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GDII
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Reubenh wrote:Just sticking the oe en2 fpr on the fuel rail should work fine. I'll try to fire it up this weekend and see.
IMG_20190710_215101.jpg
Looks like it has been done before however I don't know what the pressure for the GEN2 is vs what the GEN5 needs. GEN5 may need 60psi.
1996 AE101 Corolla Sprint NZ New Daily
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
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Reubenh
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
I am using a link so as long as the fuel is there I can tune around it
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Reubenh
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Just a little update on the engine.. it runs.
I've only connected the bare minimum to the link to get it going and it runs pretty sweet. Using a basemap for some altezza that had a bit of a turbo and stuff, just modified the injector quantities and stuff and fired right up, Seems alright. "Launch control" works
I have a fwd intake manifold here as well so that will be the next wee addition.
I've only connected the bare minimum to the link to get it going and it runs pretty sweet. Using a basemap for some altezza that had a bit of a turbo and stuff, just modified the injector quantities and stuff and fired right up, Seems alright. "Launch control" works
I have a fwd intake manifold here as well so that will be the next wee addition.
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Reubenh
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Just had a play with the vvti. It's pretty amazing how big of an impact it has on how the engine runs..
Currently it's all quick spliced into the factory loom but soon I will start rerouting the harness to come out the right side of the engine.
I have also got a shiny red intake manifold that seems to bolt up just right. .
Currently it's all quick spliced into the factory loom but soon I will start rerouting the harness to come out the right side of the engine.
- Quality wiring job
I have also got a shiny red intake manifold that seems to bolt up just right. .
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GDII
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Re: Blacktop 3sge SW20
Good progress. I do hope this makes for an exciting NA SW20.
1996 AE101 Corolla Sprint NZ New Daily
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
1990 SW20 MR2 G-Limited
2005 DY3 Demio
1990 EP81 Starlet XL (Sold)
1990 EE90 Corolla XL (Sold)
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sw20glimited/
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Reubenh
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Engine installed
It took me way longer than expected as usual.
I have some pictures.
Going in from the bottom was also a mission so maybe its just MR2 things...
Currently there is no drivers side engine mount (just a block of wood).
Planning on maybe making the right side engine mount going off the alternator bracket?
We will see, i'm no fabricator.
The Link ECU is working out pretty well though, starts and runs okay. Sensors for days and idle control and vvt etc all seems to go well
I have some pictures.
Going in from the bottom was also a mission so maybe its just MR2 things...
Currently there is no drivers side engine mount (just a block of wood).
Planning on maybe making the right side engine mount going off the alternator bracket?
We will see, i'm no fabricator.
The Link ECU is working out pretty well though, starts and runs okay. Sensors for days and idle control and vvt etc all seems to go well