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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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dammit grrr, was just about to think up something awesome to brag about.... Feels a hell of a lot better with those sways in it.

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So... with the help of the amazing Jason (JasonFriday13) - better than Spiderman that guy! He almost single-handed-ly took over management of my engine swap... and has done an F'ing AWESOME job! My car is actually running... took it for a drive to re-bed the brakes and man! I have missed it. Also... almost forgot how to drive a manual a couple of times. First time was when leaving the driveway when I dropped the clutch to quickly and took off like a bat out of hell and (not that my passenger noticed) but I almost stalled it while braking...lol But it wasn't all smiles when we got back... :evil:

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Jason... doing most of the work. Attaching the gearbox to the new engine.

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Gearbox on... nearly ready to go back in, need to tighten up some bolts and put that starter on :wink:

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Ready for take off! Engine is under the car... i'm getting really excited at this stage.

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Jason, doing a quick check before we raise the engine up.

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Slowly, slowly... raising the engine up into place.

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My mate, Dylan, lining the engine up onto the mount

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Engine is and the boys are attaching the axles and everything back into place

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I managed to get out from behind the camera and get my hands dirty (all of two minutes!)

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Someone thought it was time for beers... Viv turns up (he went out with his mates for his birthday the night before and got home at 4pm-ish) and he decides the beers had come out... good times!

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Car has changed position, but as you can see, it's not all tickity-boo

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Gearbox oil is leaking out, discovered the left hand side gear seal isn't doing it's job... unfortunately, this late on a Sunday... no chance of getting the required part. Tomorrow it'll be a quick phone call to BNT to sort it out and hope for the best.

Big thanks to Dylan and Jason for doing such an amazing job... so close to getting it on the road again, I can almost smell the Raglan salty air. :mrgreen:
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Good work Kylie. You must be very pleased.
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Benckj wrote:Good work Kylie. You must be very pleased.
I am totally stoked. There is a lot more bits and pieces this car really needs to make it a heck of a lot better (when I say better, I actually mean "user-friendly"... lol) but right now, I'm just glad it's going and can now be taken in for a WOF... hopefully pass and get a registration for the Raglan run.

I'm not exactly sure how to say thanks to Jason in a way that can really express my immense gratitude for all his amazing work! For a young man, he certainly knows these MR2's inside, outside and back to front. I'm so grateful for his help.
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Yep Jason is certainly a top bloke. I'll vouch for that. :D

You might want to get the seals sorted before Raglan Kylie. Or hold off until a January run. Now that the Prude is finally coming together for you, I wouldn't want to see you lose a gearbox half way through the run. That would surely suck...
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Good stuff Jason!

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mickeyduck wrote:Yep Jason is certainly a top bloke. I'll vouch for that. :D

You might want to get the seals sorted before Raglan Kylie. Or hold off until a January run. Now that the Prude is finally coming together for you, I wouldn't want to see you lose a gearbox half way through the run. That would surely suck...
It's already being taken care of Charlie :wink: Was at BNT 8am this morning getting one and left the boys in charge of it before heading off to work :P
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Good stuff. :)
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She's warranted, registered and hanging out 'til pay day for gas. Then I can take her for a long test cruise on Saturday.
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Awesome! :D . There were a few minor problems we had, and we found them and fixed them. I also changed the headlight bulbs, and fixed the mis-aligned right headlight trim. I also lined the panel back up so that the trim will never catch again. The door didn't close very well so I re-aligned the glass, closes with much less force now. The axle seal only took an hour to do. The swap itself took around 15 hours from dead-engine-in-car to drivable car. Very straight forward swap. Don't be surprised if you see an auto engine loom for sale with the O2 sensor plug missing!
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JasonFriday13 wrote:Awesome! :D . There were a few minor problems we had, and we found them and fixed them. I also changed the headlight bulbs, and fixed the mis-aligned right headlight trim. I also lined the panel back up so that the trim will never catch again. The door didn't close very well so I re-aligned the glass, closes with much less force now. The axle seal only took an hour to do. The swap itself took around 15 hours from dead-engine-in-car to drivable car. Very straight forward swap. Don't be surprised if you see an auto engine loom for sale with the O2 sensor plug missing!
Hahahaha - Auto Loom for Sale! O2 sensor is missing... BUT... it comes with an ECU! And if anyone needs and auto spacer... we did find it hiding in the wrap I used for covering the engine.

You may have re-aligned the glass so the door closes with less effort, but now it leaks. Washed the car today and water went all down the inside of the window... never had that happen before (it never leaked even though it's a targa top)... Oh well.
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Today I took advantage of a school trip to Sunset Beach, Port Waikato and gently but not too gently drove my car out there. She's perfect! Spoke to a mechanic that happened to be in BNT when I popped in who has had some experience with SW20's and asked him a question...

"Why does this engine not give a little extra boost at 3K rpm (or there abouts) like the last one did?" answer... "Cam-timing"

Either I have the cam-timing wrong in the new engine (which I checked like 100 times) or the cam-timing was wrong on the old engine.

However; he also mentioned that he doesn't recall ever driving one that gave a little extra power at any stage, so my new engine is probably just right and better than the old one (funny thing is, anything is better than my old one, as my old one didn't work at all... lol)

So... either the old engine was lagging at lower revs and I only felt the kick at 3K rpm because the engine was catching up (cambelt done by stupid workshop) and then new engine is perfect and running EXACTLY the way it should.

OR

I have f'ed up the cam-timing when my Grandfather and I changed the cambelt... which can't really have happened... I checked multiple places, manuals, websites, other MR2 forums, etc. for the correct setting.

Can someone shed some light on this? Is there a little extra kick in the N/A SW20's at around the 3K rpm point or is it all just smooth accelerating?

Anyway... like I was saying...

I took her out to Sunset Beach for a drive and she was beaut to drive, never missed a beat and the road was gorgeous! Corners, straights, the occasional bump and sunshine everywhere.

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Stopped in by the river on the way back for some MR2 scenery... she's not clean yet though... sorry

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Then got her home and gave her a wash and cleaned the windows and a bit of muck around the door frames/sills

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That's her good side :wink:
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Could be hesitation due to misfire. Then again, could be a lot of things. Best get it checked by someone.
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Re: Barark's SW now MR2Pearl's Prude

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Depending on how fussy you are there is more than 1 way to setup a cambelt correctly. E.g its common to have it seem 1/4 1/2 of a tooth out. Setting it up so the exhaust cam is retarded would be the best setup in this situation.

Have you checked ignition timing with a timing light? Also check that the acis flaps vacumn line is connected.

How severe is the diffirence?

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MR2Pearl wrote:You may have re-aligned the glass so the door closes with less effort, but now it leaks. Washed the car today and water went all down the inside of the window... never had that happen before (it never leaked even though it's a targa top)... Oh well.
Interesting, the height stops will probably need adjusting up a little, but there's nothing I could do about the small gap down the back of the glass (door isn't straight, got a dent in it).
MR2Pearl wrote:Spoke to a mechanic that happened to be in BNT when I popped in who has had some experience with SW20's and asked him a question...

"Why does this engine not give a little extra boost at 3K rpm (or there abouts) like the last one did?" answer... "Cam-timing"

Either I have the cam-timing wrong in the new engine (which I checked like 100 times) or the cam-timing was wrong on the old engine.

However; he also mentioned that he doesn't recall ever driving one that gave a little extra power at any stage, so my new engine is probably just right and better than the old one (funny thing is, anything is better than my old one, as my old one didn't work at all... lol)
This sounds about right. There shouldn't be a kick at 3000 rpms, mine didn't on both the gen 2 and gen 3 engines. I used to own a car just like yours and the only "kick" I got out of it was when the ACIS valve opens at roughly 4700 rpm.
spyderballer wrote:Have you checked ignition timing with a timing light? Also check that the acis flaps vacumn line is connected.
The dizzy hasn't been touched from the look of it, but the new cam belt can put the timing off a little, so yeah, checking the ignition timing is something that should be done. And yes the ACIS vacuum hoses are connected.
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Project: 1990 SW20 GT, 1992+ brake swap, 1992+ subframe swap, 1996 Celica turbo engine swap, 1996 MR2 LSD gearbox swap, Caldina Turbo coil-on-plug ignition, Link G4 Storm, 161kw @ 10psi.
Daily: 2004 Toyota Vitz RS, 1.5L, 5sp
Tow rig: 2009 Camry, 2.4L, auto
Scrapped: 1989 SW20 GT, 1992 SW20 G-Limited, ex EssDub car, donor, 1997 Toyota Tercel 3dr hatch, front crash, 1990 SW20, G-Limited, ex EssDub car, roll crashed, donor
Sold: 1987 AW11 Supercharged, 1991 SW20 G-Limited, ex EssDub car

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