First MR2 - Widebody 3VZ SW

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Re: My first MR2

Postby Benckj » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:45 pm

Yea I was just looking back on page 1 to find out engine when you replied. Deleted my reply as it wasn't any help being non turbo.
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Re: My first MR2

Postby GDII » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:52 pm

Did you get the ACIS butterfly installed? How does it drive compared to other 3VZ powered cars?
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Re: My first MR2

Postby Gleshlich » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:47 pm

GDII wrote:Did you get the ACIS butterfly installed? How does it drive compared to other 3VZ powered cars?


Turns out it had an ACIS flap but the vac lines weren't hooked up at all. Matched the vacuum lines on the other car.
Quite hard to compare with the other car since it's a heavy auto slushbox. The MR2 feels quicker but thats mostly due to weight. Camry is definitely more linear in power delivery whereas the MR2 has nothing until about 4500
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Re: My first MR2

Postby Gleshlich » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:48 pm

Benckj wrote:Yea I was just looking back on page 1 to find out engine when you replied. Deleted my reply as it wasn't any help being non turbo.


Reckon you can change the thread title to something with Widebody + 3VZ?
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Re: My first MR2

Postby chief1eye » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:53 pm

Cool Car. Its a process of evolution, just making it how you want it.

Have you had it on the dyno? Do you have a dyno sheet for it?

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Re: My first MR2

Postby Gleshlich » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:03 pm

chief1eye wrote:Cool Car. Its a process of evolution, just making it how you want it.

Have you had it on the dyno? Do you have a dyno sheet for it?


Slowly getting there. Need to get engine to stock form before I start tinkering more. Hasn't been on a dyno. Will worry about the car once exams are over on Wednesday and I return to Wellington.

Regardless, car still sounds beautiful. Need to figure out the best way to mount the rear number plate without it rattling on the rear bumper though
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Re: My first MR2

Postby GDII » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:14 pm

Gleshlich wrote:Need to figure out the best way to mount the rear number plate without it rattling on the rear bumper though

This may or may not work in your situation but I have used either a bike inner tube cut and wedged under the plate to stop it rattling or bubble wrap but this was on my EE90 Corolla and EP81 Starlet respectively.
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Re: My first MR2

Postby JasonFriday13 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:42 pm

Gleshlich wrote:
GDII wrote:Did you get the ACIS butterfly installed? How does it drive compared to other 3VZ powered cars?


Turns out it had an ACIS flap but the vac lines weren't hooked up at all. Matched the vacuum lines on the other car.
Quite hard to compare with the other car since it's a heavy auto slushbox. The MR2 feels quicker but thats mostly due to weight. Camry is definitely more linear in power delivery whereas the MR2 has nothing until about 4500

I was going to ask this too. Here is a test: have a look at where the ACIS actuator sits with the engine turned off. Then start the engine. Have another look at where the ACIS actuator sits. Tell us if it moves or not.
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Re: My first MR2

Postby Gleshlich » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:44 pm

GDII wrote:
Gleshlich wrote:Need to figure out the best way to mount the rear number plate without it rattling on the rear bumper though

This may or may not work in your situation but I have used either a bike inner tube cut and wedged under the plate to stop it rattling or bubble wrap but this was on my EE90 Corolla and EP81 Starlet respectively.


It's rattling on the left side edge against the flat of the bumper. The plate itself has been bent just to fit the cutout. I may just bend it a bit more and try get some rubber washers on the mounts and hopefully all is well
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Re: My first MR2

Postby GDII » Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:47 pm

Yeah our NZ plates don't quite fit the JDM bumpers. Mine on the stock bumper was somehow installed to fit in the space very tight without any bending.
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Re: My first MR2

Postby JasonFriday13 » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:00 pm

Yeah, mine is the same. It's a very tight fit with very little bending.
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Re: My first MR2

Postby Gleshlich » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:59 pm

JasonFriday13 wrote:
Gleshlich wrote:
GDII wrote:Did you get the ACIS butterfly installed? How does it drive compared to other 3VZ powered cars?


Turns out it had an ACIS flap but the vac lines weren't hooked up at all. Matched the vacuum lines on the other car.
Quite hard to compare with the other car since it's a heavy auto slushbox. The MR2 feels quicker but thats mostly due to weight. Camry is definitely more linear in power delivery whereas the MR2 has nothing until about 4500

I was going to ask this too. Here is a test: have a look at where the ACIS actuator sits with the engine turned off. Then start the engine. Have another look at where the ACIS actuator sits. Tell us if it moves or not.



Did not move. Was the case in both cars. I assumed the Camry hadn't ever been tinkered with since it hadn't even been serviced in 80,000kms and mirrored it onto the MR2
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Re: First MR2 - Widebody 3VZ SW

Postby GDII » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:14 pm

This is the operation of the valve for the 3VZ. It's at the bottom of the link I posted in your thread about issues you were having so you've probably already seen it.
http://turbomr2.com/MR2/Reference/TVIS/TVIS.htm

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Re: First MR2 - Widebody 3VZ SW

Postby Gleshlich » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:00 am

GDII wrote:This is the operation of the valve for the 3VZ. It's at the bottom of the link I posted in your thread about issues you were having so you've probably already seen it.
http://turbomr2.com/MR2/Reference/TVIS/TVIS.htm

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It's fine for the idling case. Difficult to know for the other situations though. At a guess I'd say it's not closing the flap under 3900rpm at 60%+ throttle
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Re: First MR2 - Widebody 3VZ SW

Postby GDII » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:33 am

Here's a test, run the car up through the revs at WOT while driving with the vacuum port disconnected, then run it with the vacuum port connected, then run it with vacuum port disconnected and actuator always held open and then held closed.
See what sort of feel you get from the engine with it open or closed throughout the whole rev range. This might help diagnose any problems.

Try it with the Camry too to compare any changes. I know the Camry is Auto and heavy but you should notice difference and be able to compare similar feelings in power and torque.
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