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ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:44 am

There she is! 160,000km on the clock, in good condition for an mr2. Basically got it as I want to keep going to the track to both have fun and improve my driving skill, the turbo is a bit too precious for this at the moment. It also means I should have a working mr2 to go on mr2 runs and cruises and what not. Will update this thread with any work that it may need!
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Re: Olaf's 1991 NZ New G

Postby GDII » Wed Apr 19, 2017 11:52 am

Very cool. Looks like it could clean up nice.

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Re: Olaf's 1991 NZ New G

Postby TVIS » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:10 pm

Nice, need to find me one too once the other car sells.

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Re: Olaf's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:07 pm

Today me and Mr Phil GDII got up to some no good. Went through and checked out the car, taking note of all the things we could find that differ between Imported mr2s and NZ New ones. It may be worth us making an entire thread noting the differences in all kinds of mr2 when sold new. It all depends on what country which gave you a set amount of options.

Things we found today (Phil will add stuff I've forgotten no doubt).
Area around rear number plate in bumper bigger for NZ plate.
Front mounting point for front plate is slightly different.
Writing on drivers sun visor in English.
"Park Brake" light instead of an "(!)" for Hand brake (in the speedo cluster)
Oil level light (in the speedo cluster)/sensor in sump
Cold start injector
Single rear strut brace (just a straight bar, not an X) from left strut tower to drivers side of cabin/engine bay firewall.
No 20 or 30 on cabin temperature bar
No auto, but another fan speed setting on fan speed lever
Guard mounted indicator

By no means a full list and like I said Phil will probably have more to add or more details to add.

Also gave the car a full clean in and out, and set out a guide to the future of it. Basically I simply need to fix or replace the tacho (under reading heavily) and fix the drivers door check strap (mounting in the guard is busted). Also probably need to replace the gear knob as it's tatty as. Will let Phil do the honors of photos from today
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Re: Olaf's 1991 NZ New G

Postby mknz » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:07 am

ClanFever wrote:Cold start injector

You mean there is a cold start injector on NZ but not Jap? Is there other fuel system differences? I thought we would be equally cold countries. Why have a seperate injector instead of just putting in more fuel with the others? Is there no temperature sensor for the ECU?

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Re: Olaf's 1991 NZ New G

Postby GDII » Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:55 pm

mknz wrote:
ClanFever wrote:Cold start injector

You mean there is a cold start injector on NZ but not Jap? Is there other fuel system differences? I thought we would be equally cold countries. Why have a seperate injector instead of just putting in more fuel with the others? Is there no temperature sensor for the ECU?

That was our exact thinking too. Why has it got one where Japan is colder then NZ. There should be a temp sensor for the ECU but I never looked but Toyodiy says it does have one.
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby GDII » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:48 pm

Photos as Olaf promised.

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Before we started. Looks shiny but it was quite oxidised and dirty.

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After a wash.

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After a quick oxidation removal. Looks better but not as good as it could have with the limited time I had to do it by hand.

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Still has major swirls in the paint.

Now on the too cool NZDM things we found on the car. Olaf covered everything we found but here are some photos for reference.

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Cold start injector just after the throttle body. Terrible photo but it is connected to the bellowed rubber plug sleeve.

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You can sort of see the fuel line running from the left under the spark plug leads and heads under the intake manifold below the vacuum diaphragm toward the top right of the image.

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Single engine bay strut brace. Not the normal cross brace the GT, GT-S Hardtops and T-Tops and G-Limited T-Tops got. I have seen photos of a single brace before but never seen a real one.

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Dash dimmer switch. UK and Euro models got this too.
Fog light switch. This looks to be a JDM one with turning however there is no relay and no ECU and the lights didn't even work. Not sure what is going on here. Might find out more later on.

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The AC has AC and ECO like the JDM models. USDM got AC only. But it doesn't have automatic climate control so no numbers on the temperature scale and no Auto on the fan speed dial. Instead it has OFF, LO, *, **, HI.

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Park brake words instead of symbol. Depending on market and year the lights on the dash had different symbols and positions.

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Oil level sensor light in orange.

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Oil level sensor unit in the sump. This is looking from just in front of the right rear wheel through the under body plastics. You can see the A/C and Alternator belt on the crank pulley.

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License plate mounting bracket. It looked identical to my JDM one but even a Japanese plate wouldn't fit on it. It's too narrow and our NZ plates are wider than that too so another interesting item. Euro and UK have a really wide mount bracket to fit their plates.

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Wide area for NZ plates on the rear. They used the UK and Euro bumper for these cars which is why the are so much wider than the NZ plate.
Also the TOYOTA badge on the left of a JDM car is now on the right and has a Toyota symbol on the centre of the boot lid.

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Blanking plate for the fancy retracting lever for the seat belts when the door opens. It has the lever on the drivers side but not sure if the seat belt unit has it. I've not seen one of these in action before so it would be cool to see how it actually works. My JDM car has the levers but not the belts to go with it.

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Non retracting door mirrors. The button is missing. Quite a common thing for a few JDM models not to have this too.

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Quarter panel mounted indicators. The JDM models got these in June 1996 but the NZDM model got them from the start.

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At this point in time the front indicators and parking light lenses are from a JDM model. The lights that should be on this car as it was when it left the factory have the white parking light in the centre. Toyodiy confirms this with other cars I know that have the clear section and do not match my JDM lights part number.

EDIT: Another thing to note is the side trim is thicker than the JDM cars. Thicker as in sticks out from the car body more than the JDM ones do. This seems to be the same for the USDM cars too.

The other thing that stands out is the stereo is a basic version. Headunit straight to speakers rather than amps and a sub included.

I'm sure there are other little things that we didn't see but without dismantling the car it could be hard to find them.

This car doesn't have power steering but has power windows and AC. Not quite the lowest spec JDM G car with no options. So I think this car is called 'just' Toyota MR2 like the NA 5SFE powered USDM models. No other words or codes to describe it. I know you could get a 2.0 GTi 16 version of these cars which might be a higher spec but can't confirm anything.
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:24 pm

Thanks for the write up and photos Phil that about covers everything we found! Your camera can make any car look good I think APEXED will be next to visit you
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby Alsw20 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:40 pm

That is pretty tidy for a car that has endured 26 years of New Zealand driving.

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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:40 pm

Alsw20 wrote:That is pretty tidy for a car that has endured 26 years of New Zealand driving.


Couldn't agree more!

Picked up a new tacho and check strap for this as well as a window motor/regulator for APEXED. Although I now know that its actually the weld inside the guard that has snapped. So got to look at fixing it in place.

Automatic tacho, so a few options here. Leave as is. Steal the capacitors. Black out the writing and find a way to utilise the lights for shifting. Is this even worth looking at?
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:25 pm

May simply go down the new capacitor route for the time being. 2x 10uf 25v capacitors will work according to Gdii and I have full confidence in that diagnosis and fix! Hes yet to not have an answer for something
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Mon May 22, 2017 1:16 am

Cross threaded the sump plug on the latest oil change. Leaking a bit of oil on the last run. Managed to tighten the hell out of it, but going to have to be tapped next oil change. Oops

Also, new shoes for the baby. I bet these are gonna make it look sweet

Tacho is reading true now (that was fixed about a month ago). Not much else to do on it now, basically just welding the check strap back into place and there'll be nothing else to change. Manfield this weekend, should be a laugh
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby JasonFriday13 » Mon May 22, 2017 7:46 am

ClanFever wrote:Cross threaded the sump plug on the latest oil change. Leaking a bit of oil on the last run. Managed to tighten the hell out of it, but going to have to be tapped next oil change. Oops

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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby GDII » Mon May 22, 2017 9:02 am

ClanFever wrote:Tacho is reading true now (that was fixed about a month ago).

Oh yeah. We fixed that with some capacitors. The ones in the tacho looked fine but were definitely broken as replacing with new ones worked perfectly.

Wheels look good, don't add too much extra weight with them but better choice in tyres over the 15s.
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Re: ClanFevers's 1991 NZ New G

Postby ClanFever » Sat May 27, 2017 3:06 pm

Track day at Manfield tomorrow. MR2 all ready to go. It did the famous mr2 short circuit (when the battery terminal is a bit crap) when I turned it on. You then have to disconnect the battery and reconnect it. Did this and the bloody alarm went nuts. Didn't even have the remote on me as I haven't been using it. Tried to turn it on and it turned on. What a great alarm. So I have a running car with a siren blaring. Cut the cord to the siren and fixed that problem. The other problem was, driving home with my hazards going off every second (bet this looked good). Got home and grabbed the remote to disable it. All sorted, will keep the remote handy in future. Damn alarm systems
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