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Not too bad price for the parts. Labour reasonable as well although you haven't covered everything on the list.
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voxson wrote:
tw2 wrote:I haven't used any SST's ever. I used to use the starter trick for the crank bolt but I couldn't actually recommend for someone else to do it. Cams easiest way is to remove the valve cover and chuck a wrench on them to take the bolts out of the gears. The timing notches are in there too.
Looks like I would need a harmonic balancer puller to get the crank pulley off?

I emailed toyota to see what the damage would be for parts, and for lols also asked for a quote on them doing it

So, cams seals, idler pulley, tensioner, cam belt, water pump, water pump seals, oil pump seals, crank seal = $504 inc for parts, $870 ex gst labour to do the work ($1570 all up).
Do it yourself. That's a big cost and then you get to learn at the same time. $504 is ok for the parts.

If you buy a harmonic balancer puller make sure you have bolts that have the correct thread and length. The ones from Repco will not fit an MR2. They will wreck the threads.
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Benckj wrote:Not too bad price for the parts. Labour reasonable as well although you haven't covered everything on the list.
What am I missing?

I asked the parts guy for everything needed on the cam cover side.

I've edited the post as I worked out the parts cost incorrectly, should be $548.99 ex gst.

I'll put a pic of what I was quoted up when I get home too, to check what I might need vs what was quoted

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GDII wrote:
voxson wrote:
tw2 wrote:I haven't used any SST's ever. I used to use the starter trick for the crank bolt but I couldn't actually recommend for someone else to do it. Cams easiest way is to remove the valve cover and chuck a wrench on them to take the bolts out of the gears. The timing notches are in there too.
Looks like I would need a harmonic balancer puller to get the crank pulley off?

I emailed toyota to see what the damage would be for parts, and for lols also asked for a quote on them doing it

So, cams seals, idler pulley, tensioner, cam belt, water pump, water pump seals, oil pump seals, crank seal = $504 inc for parts, $870 ex gst labour to do the work ($1570 all up).
Do it yourself. That's a big cost and then you get to learn at the same time. $504 is ok for the parts.

If you buy a harmonic balancer puller make sure you have bolts that have the correct thread and length. The ones from Repco will not fit an MR2. They will wreck the threads.
Yeah I think that is what might happen. Makes me pretty nervous thinking about it though :)

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voxson wrote:
GDII wrote:
voxson wrote: Do it yourself. That's a big cost and then you get to learn at the same time. $504 is ok for the parts.

If you buy a harmonic balancer puller make sure you have bolts that have the correct thread and length. The ones from Repco will not fit an MR2. They will wreck the threads.
Yeah I think that is what might happen. Makes me pretty nervous thinking about it though :)
Fair enough. It is helpful to have someone else with you and if they know what to do. Installing seals and lining up the cam belt are things you need to know how to do. Especially with the engine in the car and limited room to get your hands and tools in. But once you've done it once you'll know more and be more confident about working around that part of the car again.
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GDII wrote: Fair enough. It is helpful to have someone else with you and if they know what to do. Installing seals and lining up the cam belt are things you need to know how to do. Especially with the engine in the car and limited room to get your hands and tools in. But once you've done it once you'll know more and be more confident about working around that part of the car again.
Doing anything next weekend? :D

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voxson wrote:
GDII wrote: Fair enough. It is helpful to have someone else with you and if they know what to do. Installing seals and lining up the cam belt are things you need to know how to do. Especially with the engine in the car and limited room to get your hands and tools in. But once you've done it once you'll know more and be more confident about working around that part of the car again.
Doing anything next weekend? :D
Depends how far down the line you are.

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OK, quoted bits below - total prices ex gst.

Checking on jp.carparts.com for the vague quoted parts:

90311-35040 SEAL, OIL(FOR TIMING CHAIN OR BELT COVER)
90311-42026 SEAL(FOR CRANKSHAFT)
15165-70010 SEAL(FOR OIL PUMP)
15188-63010 RING, O(FOR OIL PUMP)
11329-88360 GASKET, TIMING GEAR REAR COVER <- either top or bottom?
11328-88361 GASKET, TIMING GEAR OR CHAIN COVER <- either top or bottom?

Interestingly, the PN for the timing belt does not exist, but I think it is ok to trust in Toyota here.
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mknz wrote: Depends how far down the line you are.
I am in North Hamilton (St Andrews), and may yet take you up on potential assistance.

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double post sry
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OK. So I need to get myself organized before anything else. Check the manual for tools I still need (Impact wrench, harmonic balancer puller + properly threaded bolts, a much better jack than what I have). Get car into a weatherproof area that I still have space to work on. Dive in and document everything.

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I learnt everything from the BGB many years ago. If you want a hand I am just in Frankton. You will want two torque wrenches, a small and a large.
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voxson wrote:
Benckj wrote:Not too bad price for the parts. Labour reasonable as well although you haven't covered everything on the list.
What am I missing?

I asked the parts guy for everything needed on the cam cover side.

I've edited the post as I worked out the parts cost incorrectly, should be $548.99 ex gst.

I'll put a pic of what I was quoted up when I get home too, to check what I might need vs what was quoted
My apologies I was thinking this was the other thread asking about 100k service. Only things I see missing is T-stat and possibly assembly consumables like Locktight, permaseal, antisieze and coolant.

I’ve never needed a harmonic balancer pulley before as found using a rubber mallet with pry bar enough to remove pulley. Do be careful as edge of pulley can break as quite brittle.
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Wow it has been way too long - hope everyone is well!

Lots of life challenges here since ... 2018ish? Anyway, change of job & career, mr2 puking its guts all over my driveway, fixed and still zipping around in a flash of ruined green paint & rust :)

Anyways, car update!
Finally worked on the window/spoiler seal
Finally worked on the window/spoiler seal
Heatshield off without broken bolts
Heatshield off without broken bolts
Heatshield off without broken bolts
Heatshield off without broken bolts
Only a filter, but ashamedly I was never able to get it off before
Only a filter, but ashamedly I was never able to get it off before
Maybe I should have done the fuel filter much earlier!
Maybe I should have done the fuel filter much earlier!
First time changing one of these, I think I did ok with the wasted fuel?
First time changing one of these, I think I did ok with the wasted fuel?
First time changing one of these, I think I did ok with the wasted fuel?
First time changing one of these, I think I did ok with the wasted fuel?
Also pulled off my not really attached rear spoiler, the attachment point 'brace' inside the spoiler on the top-left was completely broken. I wasn't sure on the best way to fix, so its lathered in epoxy & waiting to refit after sanding and rattlecan repainting.

Also pulled out the sponge in the sides behind the doors, the passenger side seatbelt was getting wet from the rain, hopefully this fixes it.

Feels good to be playing around instead of just just driving :)

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Still have a leak.. distributor again?
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Nice work, I had a lot of trouble getting my heat shield off. Use anti-seize and new bolts when you put it back on. Its normal to lose a bit of fuel, you don't want to try and save it.

Looks like valve cover seal is next? Maybe distributor seal too...
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