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2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:05 pm
by Soleman
Hi All,

Will be Trying to keep a track of my 5sgte Build Via this Thread, Final Build will Look something Like this:

Block:
2000 5sfe Block
Manley Rods 3sgte
Ats Racing 5sgte Pistons 8.3:1 With HD Wrist pins.
Arp Main Studs
Acl Race Bearings
Crank Balanced and Journals Turned down to 3sgte Spec.

Head:
Mild Port n Polish,
270 Kelford Cams
Kelford Springs
Shimless Bucket conversion
Toda Cam Gears

Breathing:
Ats Racing Straight Runner, Boot intake Manifold.
Boot Mount Intercooler
Aem Water Meth Injection with Aem FailSafe

Exhaust:
Soara Top Mount Exhaust Manifold, T3 Flange, 44mm Mvr Wastegate.
Custom Downpipe feeding my Existing Berk Exhaust System.

Turbo:
Deciding Between Gtx3071r and the Gtx3076r .63 Ar
T3 Inlet, Vband Exit

Fuel:
Ats 8an Fuel Rail.
Ats 1200cc Injectors
Looking at a big walbro pump setup. Tbc

Electronics:
Link G4+ Storm. Full wire in loom.

Tranmission:
E153 Non Lsd Box

Custom made Mfactory Lsd, made for the non lsd Box
New Bearings, Looking for syncros.
few new dust seals
Looking at a new clutch and flywheel setup from Mrp.

Some of this will change, Some wont.

Pistons arriving this week and then off to the machine shop.

hoping to.make the drive to toyota fest 2020 from Auckland to Cromwell.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:10 pm
by Soleman
So have picked up Some 5sfe Coolant Pipes from a model with out the oil cooler

Much easier way to delete the hose from hell and hell on earth.

Also marked the 2 Alternator holes and 2 Cv carrier bolts to be drilled and tapped.

Nz Customs are kindly holding onto my Wiseco Pistons from Ats Racing.. I Await there invoice.

Progress is still being made anyway :)

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:23 pm
by *84vvt
What are your plans for a oil cooler / warmer ?
Nice build looking forward to see how it all goes . :-)

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:24 am
by mknz
I have new locating pins for the E153 axle carrier, I'm putting another Amayama order soon so I can order another set.

Also consider DeatschWerks, I've heard they're quieter at the same flow.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:34 am
by Mr-Paulio
mknz wrote:Also consider DeatschWerks, I've heard they're quieter at the same flow.

+1!
My Walbro was only a few years old and died. (Which is pretty shit I feel!) Replaced with DW and it's been great. Certainly quieter than when it failed! But unsure how much quieter than a working one?

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:32 pm
by Benckj
Link below on fuel pump comparisons which may be helpful. The DW isn't in the tests but you can certainly plug in the data to check against others.

http://www.wolfkatz.com/Articles/MR2%20 ... Report.pdf

Surprised the Walbro died on you after such a short time interval. Did you do a post mortem to understand why it failed?

One of the reasons I chose a Walbro was due to its reliability and very few examples of failures. Yes, it does whine a bit especially when tank is under 1/4 but using a rubber or neoprene sock does quiet it down.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:55 pm
by GDII
Benckj wrote:Link below on fuel pump comparisons which may be helpful. The DW isn't in the tests but you can certainly plug in the data to check against others.

http://www.wolfkatz.com/Articles/MR2%20 ... Report.pdf

Surprised the Walbro died on you after such a short time interval. Did you do a post mortem to understand why it failed?

One of the reasons I chose a Walbro was due to its reliability and very few examples of failures. Yes, it does whine a bit especially when tank is under 1/4 but using a rubber or neoprene sock does quiet it down.

I have read of both failing enough to be an issue and the thing that puts the Walbro in the maybe basket is the noise. Not that an MR2 is a quiet car anyway. If the fuel pump resistor system is removed, the pump sound will be more noticeable at lower RPM if it is spinning at full speed.

However at the price point vs the turbo OEM Denso unit from Toyota either pump is worth the money. Although having a pump die could be more expensive and an inconvenience than the OEM pumps that seem to last for 25+ years. You can pick up the Denso turbo pump from external suppliers for quite cheap however it's not comparable to the that of Walbro and DW pumps as shown in your link. They may not even be the same pump you are getting from Toyota.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:51 pm
by Benckj
My OEM pump lasted less than 100k which was understandable after I pulled it apart. It was not shimmed properly and the brushes were partially off compuntator causing it to bind.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:06 pm
by Mr-Paulio
Never looked into why. Still have it I think though? It was weird it just went noisy and had low pressure. Still spun. I figured because the car had Sat for a bit? Although the pump worked fine for a few months with regular use after sitting and before dying. Someone else told me they had a similar experience and recommended DW that's why I went with it. It's been about 3 years now and has more use than the Walbro. The biggest pain for me was dropping the tank again. Although that job is less of a pain now with a hoist :D

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:28 pm
by Soleman
Ugh Yay, other people commenting on thread.

Have been looking into DW Pumps, Havnt decided how im going to do the setup. one pump intank enough for 500whp?.

As for Axle.Carrier Pins. im keen to get a set :)

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:31 pm
by Soleman
*84vvt wrote:What are your plans for a oil cooler / warmer ?
Nice build looking forward to see how it all goes . :-)



Im Going to mount a cooler where the old intercooler was, and remote mount the filter. have looked at a few items but have not locked anything in yet.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:32 pm
by Soleman
mknz wrote:I have new locating pins for the E153 axle carrier, I'm putting another Amayama order soon so I can order another set.

Also consider DeatschWerks, I've heard they're quieter at the same flow.


Chuck in a set of pins for me please. let me know $ an acc in pm. :)

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:10 am
by GDII
Soleman wrote:Ugh Yay, other people commenting on thread.

Have been looking into DW Pumps, Havnt decided how im going to do the setup. one pump intank enough for 500whp?.

As for Axle.Carrier Pins. im keen to get a set :)

You can get in tank pumps that will support 500hp on pump fuel. If you are using E85 then possibly not. You'll need something bigger than the 255lph.

According to this the Walbro 255lph will support 500whp if you sort the wiring. https://www.nzefi.com/product/walbro-25 ... fuel-pump/
The DW200 should support the same.

Or you go to the bigger Walbro 400lph in tank for bigger power but not sure how well this would fit the oem hanger. https://www.nzefi.com/product/walbro-40 ... fuel-pump/

If you can avoid a surge tank system then I would. I don't think you'd run into issues unless you were really low on fuel in the tank.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:56 am
by Soleman
Yeah if id goto the 400lph but in a Dw version that would be the one.

i am trying to avoid a surge tank. it will only see the track occassionaly for toyota fest or chrome. nothing competitive.

how are people installing new pumps in tank. reusing the old hanger or buying somtjing new with An fittings?

Cheers

GDII wrote:
Soleman wrote:Ugh Yay, other people commenting on thread.

Have been looking into DW Pumps, Havnt decided how im going to do the setup. one pump intank enough for 500whp?.

As for Axle.Carrier Pins. im keen to get a set :)

You can get in tank pumps that will support 500hp on pump fuel. If you are using E85 then possibly not. You'll need something bigger than the 255lph.

According to this the Walbro 255lph will support 500whp if you sort the wiring. https://www.nzefi.com/product/walbro-25 ... fuel-pump/
The DW200 should support the same.

Or you go to the bigger Walbro 400lph in tank for bigger power but not sure how well this would fit the oem hanger. https://www.nzefi.com/product/walbro-40 ... fuel-pump/

If you can avoid a surge tank system then I would. I don't think you'd run into issues unless you were really low on fuel in the tank.

Re: 2YODA 5sgte Build

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:59 am
by Soleman
Soara Manifold had been dropped with the shipping Company in the Ukraine.

T3 Turbo Flange, MVR Wastegate Vband. He has made this to flow well and told me to Relocate the oil filter.

He can make them so you keep the stock location but the flow will be affected.

Cant Wait for this to arrive.